International interoperability

Heath Frankel heath.frankel at oceaninformatics.com
Wed Aug 22 18:34:54 EDT 2012


Hi Stefan,
Are you aware of the NEHTA Pathology DCMs done in Australia. These should
be close to going into CKM if not already, otherwise you may find in the
NEHTA CKM.
Heath
On 23/08/2012 12:26 AM, "Stefan Sauermann" <sauermann at technikum-wien.at>
wrote:

>  Agree.
> My preception is that the people in this community share a common vision
> of doing this on the openEHR platform, within CKM. That is fine and there
> is hope.
>
> I have the feeling, that the people in this community think in many
> different usecases. We seem to be talking about different flavours of
> similar things without explicitly stating which flavour is actually meant.
> This makes harmonisation very hard.
>
> Would it be reasonable to establish usecases in order to promote more
> focussed sub-discussions?
>
> I am happy to engage in a "pathology report content" use case effort,
> should anybody wish to join.
>
> On behalf of the national EHR effort we are running a group of users and
> vendors, so we get heavy, national scale engagement from very high ranking
> experts. I also have a contracted team here, supporting and documenting the
> discussion into a guideline document. I would have to check with the
> bosses, but I guess they might be nudged to agree that we could also
> capture the results of our discussion into the tools you suggest (if the
> effort is manageable). Austria is using CDA as transport format but that is
> another issue.  It does not keep us from a useful technology-independent
> content discussion in this community.
>
> Of course we would need help from others who are more experienced in the
> tools and philosophy of archetypes.
>
> This may also generate some input into the 13606 revision that is on the
> move.
>
> So: Volunteers, lets hear from you!
>
> Greetings from Vienna, looking forward,
> Stefan
>
>
> Stefan Sauermann
>
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>
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>
> Am 22.08.2012 15:39, schrieb Thomas Beale:
>
>
> It takes this community to do that - and people in it to make it grow, and
> change it as is needed. If we see the situation like software tools, its
> like putting out a new tool that initially only a small community uses
> (think GIT in the early days). You have to get it going and show its value,
> and then more people will come. And then the next increment will be based
> on the thoughts of more users. And so on.
>
> - thomas
>
> On 22/08/2012 02:11, Stefan Sauermann wrote:
>
> Dear Sam, all,
> I am fully aware of the openEHR efforts, CKM etc. I agree that these are
> platforms are required !!! to get the work done.
>
> My point is that interoperability will only work for users / systems who
> are represented in the discussions. Those  who engage and agree on
> harmonised solutions will have interoperability. "The rest of the world"
> are not represented, they do not discuss. We cannot solve their problems
> for them. The "rest of the world" will therefore not have interoperability
> (with us) without further work.
>
> Limiting the scope to a certain user group and a use case will make
> harmonisation crisp and easier.  We can focus on solutions for those who
> are represented in the discussions and get those going. We can then prove
> and disseminate to "the rest of the world" that this works elegantly with
> little effort for a certain purpose in a certain community. Our experience
> in Austria is that "the rest of the world" will notice and jump on the
> train. The train needs to be there before anybody will jump on.
>
> (I do admit that we do not see the complete "rest of the world" on our
> Austrian trains. But there is an audience and there is international
> cooperation with relevant groups elsewhere.)
>
> (Online tools are fine. In my experience however harmonisation work is
> successful if you have at least a few face to face meetings at the start,
> but that is another story, does not belong here.)
> *
> *
>
>
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