[openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 - and join up now.

David Moner damoca at gmail.com
Mon Jan 12 02:34:32 EST 2015


I agree with Sam and Ian. You nominate someone else for a prize, for
example. But for a position you should nominate yourself, and maybe then be
supported by other member.

David

2015-01-11 14:02 GMT+01:00 Ian McNicoll <ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com>:

> Hi Pablo,
>
> I think we all agree that the current tool has some difficulties but
> its real advantage is in managing the voting process in a trusted
> manner. For all its deficiencies, this particular piece of software
> seems to have a good reputation in terms of handling the voting
> process accurately and fairly. The last thing we want to do at the
> moment is to be seen to be hacking things together, with the risk of
> people claiming that the process has been unfair or inaccurate.
>
> I absolutely agree that once this process is over, the new Management
> Board should review how we manage membership lists and the voting
> process for the future. Perhaps this is something that the proposed
> new Web committee could look at. It would certainly be good to have
> things much better integrated on the main site.
>
> For now, I would much prefer to work on better communications on the
> members site and on the main site.
>
> I think the self-nomination question is a bit of a red-herring.
>
> As Sam has said, there is a minimum commitment that anyone nominated
> (self or otherwise)  has to commit to.
>
> They have to want to be nominated, they have to sign up as an
> Individual / Industry Partner member, and they have to provide a short
> bio.
>
> I would certainly not want to be nominated publicly by someone else
> until my agreement had been sought privately or otherwise
>
> Behind the scenes I would fully expect Individual Members to be
> encouraging others to nominate themselves and offer support, or for
> people to seek such support and then self-nominate.
>
> Again, it is something that can be reviewed in light of our experience
> but I don't think changing from self-nomination really makes much
> difference to the practicalities.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ian
>
>
> Dr Ian McNicoll
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>
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> Director openEHR Foundation  www.openehr.org/knowledge
> Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
> SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland
> BCS Primary Health Care  www.phcsg.org
>
>
> On 10 January 2015 at 12:10, pazospablo at hotmail.com
> <pazospablo at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I also understood we were nominating other people, not ourselves and was
> > promoting this in the ES community asking them to join and nominate :/
> >
> >
> > IMO self nomination is weird  because you need to ask someone to support
> > your nomination. Nominating someone else is easier, we just need to ask
> the
> > person if he/she wants to be nominated.
> >
> >
> > About the chosen tool to hanlde this: ot os difficult to work with, from
> the
> > user and admin perspective. IMO the same can be done just with google
> forms,
> > that is free and widely used, and paypal directly.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my LG Mobile
> >
> > ------ Original message------
> >
> > From: Ian McNicoll
> >
> > Date: Fri, Jan 2, 2015 8:31 AM
> >
> > To: For openEHR clinical discussions;
> >
> > Cc: For openEHR technical discussions;
> >
> > Subject:Re: [openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 - and
> > join up now.
> >
> > Hi Erik,Happy New Year.I agree the list of current nominees and members
> > should be made moreobvious- @Sam - is this possible?I have no idea what
> is
> > meant by 'include name in list of eventregistrants'. There is certainly
> no
> > other  'secret' list of nomineesand current Board members are not
> > automatically nominated.You are correct that self-nomination is
> expected. I
> > am not sure thatit makes sense to nominate someone else since it would
> > really requirethat person's agreement in any case. They would need to be
> > registeredmembers and would need to nominate themselves, provide a bio
> > etc.The nomination does need support from an existing Board member
> butthis
> > is purely to prevent vexatious or spurious nominations. I wouldcertainly
> not
> > expect a nomination to be rejected other than in highlyextreme
> > circumstances, and I would personally be happy to supportanyone from the
> > 'known' openEHR community, should they wish it.I am not aware of any
> > Industry group nominations so far but understandthat these are imminent.I
> > agree too that we should issue regular updates over the next weeks,along
> > with lists of current nominations - we need more!Regards,IanDr Ian
> > McNicolloffice +44 (0)1536 414 994fax +44 (0)1536 516317mobile +44 (0)775
> > 209 7859skype ianmcnicollian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.comClinical
> Modelling
> > Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UKDirector openEHR Foundation
> > www.openehr.org/knowledgeHonorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME,
> UCLSCIMP
> > Working Group, NHS ScotlandBCS Primary Health Care  www.phcsg.orgOn 28
> > December 2014 at 09:11, Erik Sundvall  wrote:> Hi and seasons
> greetings!>> I
> > find the openEHR board nomination process a bit confusing and pretty>
> > different to what I am used to in other community settings.>> When
> joining
> > as an openEHR individual member you first have to wait until> your
> > application has been approved, this might be logical in some ways, but>
> it
> > means you will need to remember to get back to the member site some days>
> > later and then do your nominations (a nomination dropout risk).>> Also
> you
> > can not even view nominations without logging in. After logging in> I did
> > not find any list of members possible to nominate, but after> navigating
> > around a while I found these four nominations:> - Bosca Tomas, Diego> -
> > McNicoll, Ian> - Bakke, Silje Ljosland> - Kobayashi, Shinji>> I guess
> these
> > nice persons were nominated by individual members, I did not> find any
> > information regarding if industry members have nominated any>
> candidates.>>
> > I did not find any information regarding if any of the current board
> > members> are considered already nominated or not (I guess not, since Ian
> is
> > on the> current board and has been nominated separately).>> The strangest
> > thing, unless I misunderstood the submission form:> The form is rigged
> > primarily to nominate yourself, and it is optional to> "Include name in
> list
> > of event registrants" - does that mean that there may> be people secretly
> > nominated? Very strange at least from a Swedish>
> community/NGO/volunteer-org
> > perspective.>> I would like to nominate Thomas Beale for example, can I
> do
> > that? By> replacing my own name that is pre-filled in the form I guess
> it is
> > possible> to nominate someone else but it is far from obvious from
> > form-texts> regarding "your nomination" etc.>> In the community settings
> I
> > am used to, the nominations are open so that any> member can nominate any
> > member, then the nominated persons are asked if they> would accept a
> > nomination or not, then there is a vote among the remaining> nominated
> > persons.>> I would suggest some changes> - Listing all current
> nominations
> > (including from both industry and> individual members) without login
> > requirement> - Allowing at least logged in members to see who else is a
> > member (so that> we know who can be nominated and can encourage people to
> > become members if> they are not listed)> - Making it possible to nominate
> > other people than yourself> - Clarifying if anybody not on the visible
> > nomination list is considered to> be nominated> - Send out nomination
> > reminders regularly (perhaps including a list of the> then nominated
> > persons)>> Best regards,> Erik Sundvall>> Ph.D. Medical Informatics.
> > Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 (or> 010-1036252 in
> Sweden)>
> > LiÖ: erik.sundvall at regionostergotland.se (lio.se changing name 1 Jan
> 2015)>
> > LiU: erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/>>> On Tue, Dec
> 23,
> > 2014 at 12:58 AM,  wrote:>>>> Happy Xmas everybody,>>>> Thank you to the
> new
> > members and Industry Partners that have joined up so>> far. We have three
> > nominations for the Management Board at this stage. Two>> of the
> companies
> > have asked for an extension for the joining date to allow>> transition to
> > the new Calendar year.>>>> The Board considered their request at the last
> > Board meeting and agreed.>> Consequently the closure date for nominations
> > has been extended to the 31>> Jan 2015.>>>> Please join up by going to
> > http://members.openehr.org We need a broad and>> representative group to
> > vote for the Management Board. Your involvement is>> crucial. The funds
> also
> > help us with the provision of some of the>> fundamentals (web site, CKM
> > etc).>>>> Have a great break over Xmas but make sure you contribute to
> the
> > MedInfo>> workshops by the middle of January. Keep an eye on the lists
> for
> > details.>>>> Looking forward to working with you all in 2015!>>>> Cheers,
> > Sam>>>> Dr Sam Heard>> Chairman, openEHR Foundation>>>>>>
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