SV: Clinical Modeling - A critical analysis

Mikael Nyström mikael.nystrom at
Wed Mar 11 06:55:18 EDT 2015

I might also be interested.


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Count us in ;)

2015-03-11 11:08 GMT+01:00 Thomas Beale <thomas.beale at>:
> I actually wrote to Jan Talmon about this when I was first aware of it 
> (30 Oct 2013) and gave him my opinion of the quality of the science in 
> this paper (it wasn't very positive;-). His view was that I / we / 
> someone should write a letter to the editor of IJMI in which the 
> errors / shortcomings are discussed. I did not do this for lack of 
> time, but I think it would make sense to still do this and/or write a 
> much better paper on the topic, which could cover actual evidence and 
> science being done in openEHR projects, Intermountain environment, and UPV projects as well.
> thoughts?
> - thomas
> On 01/03/2015 20:38, Diego Boscá wrote:
>> I agree, a response paper seems the most logical approach.
>> 2015-03-01 21:31 GMT+01:00 Koray Atalag <k.atalag at>:
>>> I’m completely disappointed, but not surprised, that this paper was 
>>> accepted as a scientific paper in the first place with such bold 
>>> arguments.
>>> We have all seen him advocating on openEHR during quite a few EU FP6 
>>> project proposals – I certainly attended a few workshops together. 
>>> At some point he must have been alienated or something?? At any rate 
>>> I think it is our responsibility to publish a formal rebuttal and 
>>> challenge this paper.
>>> That’s
>>> what science is about, isn’t it?
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