Clinical Modeling - A critical analysis

Mate Beštek mate.bestek at gmail.com
Wed Mar 11 09:06:01 EDT 2015


Well, I haven't been really the most active participant in this mailing
list so far - maybe I could give some extra effort here - if that would be
acceptable to everyone?

Regards
Mate

On 11 March 2015 at 13:53, Ian McNicoll <ian at freshehr.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> It is great to hear enthusiasm for this effort. Anyone prepared to take a
> (? joint) lead. It would be good to have some clear progress before the
> next round of conference deadlines.
>
> Ian
>
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> On 11 March 2015 at 12:10, Mate Beštek <mate.bestek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> such a paper would also be interesting to me and our MoH and NIPH...
>> I have to prepare something similar also for the EU JA Parent project so
>> I would be happy to cooperate on this article...
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Mate
>>
>> On 11 March 2015 at 11:55, Mikael Nyström <mikael.nystrom at liu.se> wrote:
>>
>>> I might also be interested.
>>>
>>>         Regards
>>>         Mikael
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>>> Från: openEHR-clinical [mailto:
>>> openehr-clinical-bounces at lists.openehr.org] För Diego Boscá
>>> Skickat: den 11 mars 2015 11:36
>>> Till: For openEHR clinical discussions
>>> Ämne: Re: Clinical Modeling - A critical analysis
>>>
>>> Count us in ;)
>>>
>>> 2015-03-11 11:08 GMT+01:00 Thomas Beale <
>>> thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com>:
>>> >
>>> > I actually wrote to Jan Talmon about this when I was first aware of it
>>> > (30 Oct 2013) and gave him my opinion of the quality of the science in
>>> > this paper (it wasn't very positive;-). His view was that I / we /
>>> > someone should write a letter to the editor of IJMI in which the
>>> > errors / shortcomings are discussed. I did not do this for lack of
>>> > time, but I think it would make sense to still do this and/or write a
>>> > much better paper on the topic, which could cover actual evidence and
>>> > science being done in openEHR projects, Intermountain environment, and
>>> UPV projects as well.
>>> >
>>> > thoughts?
>>> >
>>> > - thomas
>>> >
>>> > On 01/03/2015 20:38, Diego Boscá wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I agree, a response paper seems the most logical approach.
>>> >>
>>> >> 2015-03-01 21:31 GMT+01:00 Koray Atalag <k.atalag at auckland.ac.nz>:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I’m completely disappointed, but not surprised, that this paper was
>>> >>> accepted as a scientific paper in the first place with such bold
>>> >>> arguments.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We have all seen him advocating on openEHR during quite a few EU FP6
>>> >>> project proposals – I certainly attended a few workshops together.
>>> >>> At some point he must have been alienated or something?? At any rate
>>> >>> I think it is our responsibility to publish a formal rebuttal and
>>> >>> challenge this paper.
>>> >>> That’s
>>> >>> what science is about, isn’t it?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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