Memory Clinic / Older Adult Mental Health

Thomas Beale thomas.beale at
Fri Nov 13 08:56:56 EST 2015

Hi Matt,

Some potentially useful resources:

  * Business purpose of archetypes
    1 pager on why archetypes are needed
  * UK CKM <>- a UK clinical models
  * HSCIC CKM <> - HSCIC's clinical models
  * Modelling Tools <>

Re: having to convert archetypes and templates into product specific 
formats, this is pretty easily doable, since archetypes are highly 
computable (i.e. don't rely on informal constructs or statements), and 
there are a number of open source libraries for working with archetypes 
within tools (e.g. adl-designer 
<>, adl2-core 

If you keep an eye on this mailing list, you will get responses from 
clinical modelling experts and software developers on your more specific 

- thomas

On 13/11/2015 12:31, Matt Evans wrote:
> I have followed these lists for some years but never posted before. I 
> work in an NHS older adult mental health service in the south of 
> England and the greatest proportion of our workload is in cognitive 
> disorders.
> We have significant need to gather a mixture of structured and semi 
> structured or freetext clinical information to support clinical care, 
> audit, service development and research. We have previously worked 
> with UCL CHIME to model the clinical information and built an 
> information system to support these requirements in memory clinic and 
> to some extent older adult mental health more generally. We therefore 
> have some potential archetypes/templates to start from.
> The move in the NHS towards larger information systems means that we 
> must now migrate these clinical models in to some sort of 
> representation in the main hospital/Trust information system. Our 
> neighbouring Trusts do the same within their different information 
> systems. As clinicians and researchers we are more than ever 
> interested in sharing the information structures across our 
> organizations but clearly that means across different incompatible 
> systems.
> I have experience of the ‘traditional’ way of specifying and 
> communicating information requirements and building them in ‘the big 
> systems’ and it isn’t entirely satisfactory. I hope that building 
> archetypes could be a really efficient way of engaging end users and 
> to communicate the developments.    Regrettably the exercise would 
> merely be for us to demonstrate our common requirement as the 
> archetypes will then have to be translated rather than incorporated in 
> to the different  systems in use by different organizations.
> Clearly I need to do some reading of the openEHR pages and 
> specifically the tools. Before we start I’d appreciate any advice 
> people could offer.
> Is there active openEHR archetype work within the NHS currently?
> Are there archetypes in developments within 
> cognitive/neurodegenerative disorders or mental health?
> Should it be sufficient to use the archetype editor to build and share 
> the work or would it be worth my while then adding the archetypes to 
> an openEHR server to demonstrate use?
> Thanks for any pointers!

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