Alive vs Dead

Thomas Beale thomas.beale at
Tue Jan 5 15:27:45 EST 2016

Most of these are 'ontological' discussions, i.e. discussions about all 
the weird things that could possibly happen in reality. We need to 
remember that we are not generally trying to model all that complexity, 
but just the general structures for what needs to be written down at 
specific points in time by admin and / or clinical staff. Those 'notes' 
need to be designed generically enough that they will cope with all 
these variations. Making most of the data items optional is a basic way 
to do some of that...

  - thomas

On 05/01/2016 15:39, Bert Verhees wrote:
> My two cents.
> Kafka would have loved this discussion, but he is dead.
> I think dead is a state, not an event with a date. Dying is an event.
> Even when you don't know the date of dying, there can be proof a 
> person is dead.
> And even when there is no proof of a person being dead, there is law 
> that says that a person can be declared dead, even when there is no 
> proof, even when there is no date of dying known.
> This happens sometimes with missing persons, missing in a fire, 
> missing at sea, missing in the wild, etc.
> Bert

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