Alive vs Dead

Bert Verhees bert.verhees at
Tue Jan 5 15:57:57 EST 2016

I understand Thomas, just some arguments make me smile, like this one:
"alive equals not-dead"

I am glad I am just a programmer. ;-)

On 05-01-16 21:27, Thomas Beale wrote:
> Most of these are 'ontological' discussions, i.e. discussions about 
> all the weird things that could possibly happen in reality. We need to 
> remember that we are not generally trying to model all that 
> complexity, but just the general structures for what needs to be 
> written down at specific points in time by admin and / or clinical 
> staff. Those 'notes' need to be designed generically enough that they 
> will cope with all these variations. Making most of the data items 
> optional is a basic way to do some of that...
>  - thomas
> On 05/01/2016 15:39, Bert Verhees wrote:
>> My two cents.
>> Kafka would have loved this discussion, but he is dead.
>> I think dead is a state, not an event with a date. Dying is an event.
>> Even when you don't know the date of dying, there can be proof a 
>> person is dead.
>> And even when there is no proof of a person being dead, there is law 
>> that says that a person can be declared dead, even when there is no 
>> proof, even when there is no date of dying known.
>> This happens sometimes with missing persons, missing in a fire, 
>> missing at sea, missing in the wild, etc.
>> Bert
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