What to call this concept?

Mark Luciani mhluciani at gmail.com
Fri Jun 15 08:26:16 EDT 2018

I'd say this fits well under the umbrella term of Social History (though
this includes family relationships as well so depends on what the plan is
precisely with the archetype) as Thomas mentions.

Otherwise 'Occupation' as Ian states is my go to for the more precise 'what
do you do?' Actually that is almost the precise phrase I use when eliciting
'occupation' in a history, so I would understand that term immediately if
it were presented in an archetype.


On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 12:38 John B Hughes, Dr, <john.b.hughes at mcgill.ca>

> As per a previous recommendation by Thomas regarding introducing
> ontological structure to the openEHR domain it might be interesting to see
> what the Ontology of General Medical Science
> https://bioportal.bioontology.org/ontologies/OGMS
> Ontology for General Medical Science | NCBO BioPortal
> <https://bioportal.bioontology.org/ontologies/OGMS>
> bioportal.bioontology.org
> The National Center for Biomedical Ontology was founded as one of the
> National Centers for Biomedical Computing, supported by the NHGRI, the
> NHLBI, and the NIH Common Fund under grant U54-HG004028.
> has to offer on the subject
> jh
> John B. Hughes M.D., C.M.
> Assistant Professor
> McGill University
> Faculty of Medicine
> ------------------------------
> *From:* openEHR-clinical <openehr-clinical-bounces at lists.openehr.org> on
> behalf of Thomas Beale <thomas.beale at openehr.org>
> *Sent:* June 15, 2018 6:25 AM
> *To:* openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org
> *Subject:* Re: What to call this concept?
> Without getting into all the obvious philosophical rabbit holes, a term I
> have seen used for (some of) this is 'social history' (a bit like 'natural
> history' for a particular kind of animal).
> - thomas
> On 15/06/2018 07:41, Bakke, Silje Ljosland wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> We’ve been struggling for a while to define and delineate a concept about
> the activities an individual does during their day – do they do paid work,
> unpaid work, are they a student, are they unemployed and seeking work,
> unemployed and not seeking work, retired, carer, are they a young child or
> infant, or something else? There may be multiple, like both studying and
> working.
> A lot of feedback has been that we should constrain this to just
> employment, ie paid work. That would make the definition simple, but that’s
> not the concept we’re trying to define. We’ve been thinking about things
> like role in life, socio-economic or psychosocial activity situation, or
> activity in daily life. The first is rather vague, the second isn’t really
> a common expression, and the third feels too close to “ADL”, which is
> normally thought of functional assessments like whether you can take care
> of your own hygiene and nutrition.
> A typical question that would lead to this concept could be “What do you
> do?”.
> We’d really appreciate any ideas for what words or phrases we should use
> to name and describe this concept!
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