FW: openEHR-clinical Digest, Vol 70, Issue 5

Crovetti, Angela (CDC/NIOSH/RHD) (CTR) nut3 at cdc.gov
Fri Jun 15 10:15:03 EDT 2018


Everyone - I work with CDC/NIOSH and have forwarded this thread on to the Occupational Data for Health team.  We may have some input to provide next week in regard to work and health information and how we recommend it be collected.  We've commented on the Occupation archetype and are due for another review since the last round of comments.
Thanks,
Angela C. Crovetti
Sr. Consultant, Attain/CDC/NIOSH
Office: 513-841-4498 Cell: 513-520-8031


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: What to call this concept? (Seamus Mac Suibhne)
   2. Re: What to call this concept? (Evelyn Hovenga)
   3. Re: What to call this concept? (Evelyn Hovenga)


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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 13:45:47 +0100
From: Seamus Mac Suibhne <seamus.macsuibhne at ucd.ie>
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Subject: Re: What to call this concept?
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Evidently all this is the realm of occupational therapy. I know they use various models of occupation and activity both broadly defined. I do not known if there are any OTs on this list - am not one myself - but wonder woukd this be useful

On Fri 15 Jun 2018, 07:41 Bakke, Silje Ljosland, < silje.ljosland.bakke at nasjonalikt.no> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> We?ve been struggling for a while to define and delineate a concept 
> about the activities an individual does during their day ? do they do 
> paid work, unpaid work, are they a student, are they unemployed and 
> seeking work, unemployed and not seeking work, retired, carer, are 
> they a young child or infant, or something else? There may be 
> multiple, like both studying and working.
>
>
>
> A lot of feedback has been that we should constrain this to just 
> employment, ie paid work. That would make the definition simple, but 
> that?s not the concept we?re trying to define. We?ve been thinking 
> about things like role in life, socio-economic or psychosocial 
> activity situation, or activity in daily life. The first is rather 
> vague, the second isn?t really a common expression, and the third 
> feels too close to ?ADL?, which is normally thought of functional 
> assessments like whether you can take care of your own hygiene and nutrition.
>
>
>
> A typical question that would lead to this concept could be ?What do 
> you do??.
>
>
>
> We?d really appreciate any ideas for what words or phrases we should 
> use to name and describe this concept!
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
> *Silje Ljosland Bakke*
>
>
>
> Information Architect, RN
>
> Coordinator, National Editorial Board for Archetypes Nasjonal IKT HF, 
> Norway
>
> Tel. +47 40203298
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 08:46:08 -0500
From: Evelyn Hovenga <ehovenga at gmail.com>
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For me the best way to describe this concept is ?life role? or possibly lifestyle and occupation. We all adopt various roles in life that indicate the types of activities we primarily engage in or what occupies and shapes our mental state and sense of well-being.  Sometimes being a Mum totally occupies one?s life, but this changes over time. Many of us juggle our time between multiple roles. 

Dr Evelyn Hovenga
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> On 15 Jun 2018, at 7:45 am, Seamus Mac Suibhne <seamus.macsuibhne at ucd.ie> wrote:
> 
> Evidently all this is the realm of occupational therapy. I know they 
> use various models of occupation and activity both broadly defined. I 
> do not known if there are any OTs on this list - am not one myself - 
> but wonder woukd this be useful
> 
>> On Fri 15 Jun 2018, 07:41 Bakke, Silje Ljosland, <silje.ljosland.bakke at nasjonalikt.no> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We?ve been struggling for a while to define and delineate a concept about the activities an individual does during their day ? do they do paid work, unpaid work, are they a student, are they unemployed and seeking work, unemployed and not seeking work, retired, carer, are they a young child or infant, or something else? There may be multiple, like both studying and working.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> A lot of feedback has been that we should constrain this to just employment, ie paid work. That would make the definition simple, but that?s not the concept we?re trying to define. We?ve been thinking about things like role in life, socio-economic or psychosocial activity situation, or activity in daily life. The first is rather vague, the second isn?t really a common expression, and the third feels too close to ?ADL?, which is normally thought of functional assessments like whether you can take care of your own hygiene and nutrition.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> A typical question that would lead to this concept could be ?What do you do??.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We?d really appreciate any ideas for what words or phrases we should use to name and describe this concept!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Silje Ljosland Bakke
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Information Architect, RN
>> 
>> Coordinator, National Editorial Board for Archetypes Nasjonal IKT HF, 
>> Norway
>> 
>> Tel. +47 40203298
>> 
>> Web: http://arketyper.no / Twitter: @arketyper_no
>> 
>>  
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 08:52:51 -0500
From: Evelyn Hovenga <ehovenga at gmail.com>
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I just realised that the choices we make regarding roles and activities that occupy our time is also associated with the image of ourselves we like to project to the world at large. This is closely associated with occupation.

Dr Evelyn Hovenga
Sent from my iPhone

> On 15 Jun 2018, at 7:45 am, Seamus Mac Suibhne <seamus.macsuibhne at ucd.ie> wrote:
> 
> Evidently all this is the realm of occupational therapy. I know they 
> use various models of occupation and activity both broadly defined. I 
> do not known if there are any OTs on this list - am not one myself - 
> but wonder woukd this be useful
> 
>> On Fri 15 Jun 2018, 07:41 Bakke, Silje Ljosland, <silje.ljosland.bakke at nasjonalikt.no> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We?ve been struggling for a while to define and delineate a concept about the activities an individual does during their day ? do they do paid work, unpaid work, are they a student, are they unemployed and seeking work, unemployed and not seeking work, retired, carer, are they a young child or infant, or something else? There may be multiple, like both studying and working.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> A lot of feedback has been that we should constrain this to just employment, ie paid work. That would make the definition simple, but that?s not the concept we?re trying to define. We?ve been thinking about things like role in life, socio-economic or psychosocial activity situation, or activity in daily life. The first is rather vague, the second isn?t really a common expression, and the third feels too close to ?ADL?, which is normally thought of functional assessments like whether you can take care of your own hygiene and nutrition.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> A typical question that would lead to this concept could be ?What do you do??.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We?d really appreciate any ideas for what words or phrases we should use to name and describe this concept!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Silje Ljosland Bakke
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Information Architect, RN
>> 
>> Coordinator, National Editorial Board for Archetypes Nasjonal IKT HF, 
>> Norway
>> 
>> Tel. +47 40203298
>> 
>> Web: http://arketyper.no / Twitter: @arketyper_no
>> 
>>  
>> 
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