Machine Learning , some thoughts

Stefan Sauermann sauermann at technikum-wien.at
Thu Jun 28 09:20:00 EDT 2018


Correct! That is what I meant.
If clinicians decide that something must be documented, they do so in 
fulfilment of the "doctors" law (at least in Austria). The GDPR is 
therefore satisfied (as far as I understand).

Stefan

Am 27.06.2018 um 12:48 schrieb Diego Boscá:
> I assume that when Stefan says "all", he is referring to these extra 
> data points, which can be identified and accepted (or not), even on a 
> one-by-one basis if needed
>
> 2018-06-27 12:36 GMT+02:00 Karsten Hilbert <Karsten.Hilbert at gmx.net 
> <mailto:Karsten.Hilbert at gmx.net>>:
>
>     On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 12:28:30PM +0200, Diego Boscá wrote:
>
>     > Technically it's ok if patients/citizens are aware of it (and
>     willing to share it)
>
>     No, because the basic rule is that
>
>             everything is forbidden
>
>     except where
>
>                     explicitely allowed
>
>             PLUS
>
>                     it can only be allowed if *necessary* for
>                     a given purpose,
>
>     which, by definition, it is not:
>
>     >>> [...] it is not possible to know which information is
>     >>> relevant, and that all information is better recorded just in case
>
>     That is, at any rate, the current interpretation I am aware
>     of here in Germany.
>
>
>     Of course, this whole situation attests to the cluelessness
>     of people designing GDPR.
>
>     "Just in case" is simply not possible.
>
>     But better to let this rest.
>
>     Karsten Hilbert
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