Machine Learning , some thoughts

GF gfrer at luna.nl
Fri Jun 29 03:50:18 EDT 2018


Dear Evelyn,

The ideas I have are collected in a rough document called SIAMM (Semantic Interpretability Artefact Modelling Method)
This is known by several persons active in ISO/CEN.

At present I’m no longer actively involved in standardisation work.

Gerard   Freriks
+31 620347088
  gfrer at luna.nl

Kattensingel  20
2801 CA Gouda
the Netherlands

> On 29 Jun 2018, at 01:25, Dr Evelyn Hovenga <ehovenga at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Gerard I suggest you prepare a concept proposal for your standards organisation to submit to CEN or ISO.  My co-director of GeHCo chairs the ISO WG on all data matters, have you had a look at their current worklist?  ICO TC2215  or CEN TC251?  Anyone who identifies a standards gap is able to take action through the relevant organisations.
> 
> Evelyn
> 
> From: openEHR-clinical <openehr-clinical-bounces at lists.openehr.org> On Behalf Of GF
> Sent: Friday, 29 June 2018 9:12 AM
> To: Bert Verhees <bert.verhees at rosa.nl>
> Cc: For openEHR clinical discussions <openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org>
> Subject: Re: Machine Learning , some thoughts
> 
> Bert,
> 
> Any one automobile or airplane or house is built using many, many standards.
> 
> The models/standards I mentioned deal with a particular aspect of data to be stored, retrieved, processed and exchanged.
> Data that is generated in and by a patient in a context,
> observed by a person in a context
> Data that is documented using a structural model,
> using codings systems based on models/standards,
> etc. etc.
> 
> All are important, none is king or the centre of the world.
> 
> Gerard
> 
> Your joke deals with the situation where there are competing standards.
> In my case I mention standards that do not compete, do not overlap.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gerard   Freriks
> +31 620347088
>   gfrer at luna.nl <mailto:gfrer at luna.nl>
> 
> Kattensingel  20
> 2801 CA Gouda
> the Netherlands
> 
> 
>> On 29 Jun 2018, at 00:15, Bert Verhees <bert.verhees at rosa.nl <mailto:bert.verhees at rosa.nl>> wrote:
>> 
>> GF said: We need standards on how to describe the health data and their epistemology/context, modeling patterns and rules on how to use coding systems and deal with ‘negation’, just to mention a few other things needed to define data inside EHR systems in such a way that data can exchanged.
>> 
>> Dear Gerard, you know the joke?
>> 
>> A: We have 14 standards how to be interoperable in healthcare IT
>> B: What? I go and create a new standard which replaces all these standards.
>> A: We have 15 standards how to be interoperable in healthcare IT
>> 
>> The lesson is: We are all to small to be the center of the universe. We can all be a part of it, nothing more.
>> 
> 
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