Outcomes & conclusions of the openEHR course in spanish (& ideas for the future)
heather.leslie at oceaninformatics.com
Thu Jan 5 20:48:32 EST 2012
Congratulations to you and your team, Pablo,
A great achievement. It is so pleasing to see you so active and involved.
I absolutely endorse your desire to get some quality certification behind
any openEHR training.
In my opinion it should be done under the auspice of the Foundation, and
given the changes anticipated perhaps this will be something that can be
part of the new Boards vision, but this is definitely not a trivial task.
As a community, I would love to see us start taking some of the initial baby
steps to work towards this, mindful that a fully accredited program will
likely take time and significant resources.
My reservations reiterate largely Ians comments we have done numerous
training programs over the past 5 years. Our training material has evolved
significantly to reflect the changes in tooling and development of
templates, querying, CKM etc to support the practical use and
implementation. While this is still in a state of significant flux, and it
is likely to be so for some years still, the training will be harder to
standardise, but will become gradually easier. In addition, each of our
training courses has been configured to reflect the needs/desires of the
attendees and this creates an additional overhead that needs consideration.
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[mailto:openehr-clinical-bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of pablo pazos
Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 4:51 AM
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Subject: RE: Outcomes & conclusions of the openEHR course in spanish (&
ideas for the future)
I've updated my post adding the students evaluation of the course:
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For being the first edition, the evaluation was quite positive. But we still
have a lot of things to improve!
Ing. Pablo Pazos Gutiérrez
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openehr-implementers at openehr.org
Subject: Outcomes & conclusions of the openEHR course in spanish (& ideas
for the future)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:14:41 -0300
Recently we have ended the first edition of the course with a huge success.
And now we are thinking about the next steps to take.
Here is a post on my blog about the conclusions and future actions:
(yo can see it in english by clicking ENGLISH on the top right corner of the
I want to share with the community a couple of ideas mentioned there. It
would be very nice to know what you think.
The first idea is on standarizing openEHR training, and to think about an
openEHR certification. I think this could be very good for the community and
for the openEHR organization too.
It could be possible to create a mail list for openEHR trainers
(openehr-trainers at openehr.org)? So we could discuss about the topics and
ways of evaluation, and come out with an standard minimal program to all
If we reach a standard minimal program for openEHR courses, could we get
formal support from openEHR.org to issue internationally valid openEHR
certificates? (obviously this is a question for the future, but IMO we need
to start thinking about it now).
10 projects to adopt openEHR:
We thought about 10 projects (or so) in two areas: software and clinical
Because openEHR propose a tool-chain based process of creating EHRs, we need
to have each one of the links of that chain in order to adopt and implement
Now there is a little tooling available, and some of it is not open source.
In projects at a national level we need to use open source software, because
each country will need to make it's own customizations to each tool.
In the other hand, we need to model other things that are clinical knowledge
too, like processes and rules to enable CDS, in order to support full EHR
implementation (e.g. I think we could recommend ways to express rules based
on archetype ids and paths, and create software tools to support that
specification, but we need to work the openEHR services specs first....).
There is a diagram on my blog post that shows the tools we propose to 1.
develope if there is no tool that support its functionality or it's
closed-source, 2. improve the current open source tools.
On the clinical modeling side, we have engaged doctors and nurses on the
creation and translation of archetypes. Now there are two of our students
that already commited archetypes to the CKM: Dr. Domingo Liotta and Dr.
Leonardo Der Jachadurian.
I hope we could propose to create prototypes of those projects in out local
universities and coordinate the projects so we do not overlap each other,
with the objective of completing the tool chain with open source
What do you think?
Ing. Pablo Pazos Gutiérrez
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